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MiSdIrEcTeD_1
January 7th, 2009, 11:49 AM
Looks a million times better than the regular 2010 'Stangs. I actually really like it... :thumbs:

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2008/12/10shelbygt500_04_hr-1280.jpg
When Ford introduced the new 2010 Mustang at the LA Auto Show in November, marketing boss Jim Farley promised the next chapter in the Mustang story would be revealed at the Detroit Auto Show in January. Well that time has arrived and to anyone who has been following the Mustang pattern over the last several years, it should come as no surprise that it's the Shelby GT500. Just like the last iteration, the new GT500 is the most powerful factory production Mustang ever.

Like the more prosaic Mustangs, the GT500 is mechanically an evolution of the older model. Just as Ford used the current-gen Bullitt model as the starting point for the 2010 Mustang GT, the lessons learned from developing the limited edition GT500 KR fed directly into the latest Shelby-badged variant. Output of the supercharged 5.4L V8 has now been cranked up to 540 hp and 510 lb-ft of torque, and the handling is claimed to be better than before.

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2008/12/10shelbygt500_01_hr-1280.jpg

Like the last GT500, this one gets more aggressive styling, particularly in the nose, and reprises many of the same detail elements. The horizontally mirrored trapezoidal shape of the grille in the upper and lower front fascia is meant to echo the oval shape of the Shelby Cobras of the '60s. The upper grille is tilted forward at a steeper angle than the GT and the grille surround is separated entirely from the hood. The leading edge of the hood on other Mustangs forms the upper frame of the grille, while the new GT500 has an extra bit of bodywork there.

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2008/12/10shelbygt500_07_hr-1280.jpg

The hood of the GT500 still has a functional air extractor allowing some of the massive heat generated by the blown V8 to escape. The power dome of the V6 and GT is supplanted by a smoother bulge that now encompasses most of the hood. The driving lamps stay in the lower fascia reprising the last edition and leaving the grille area open for air flow.

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2008/12/10shelbygt500_09_hr-1280.jpg

Careful observers will note that the snake badge has moved from the right to the left side of the grille (when viewed from the front). This has nothing to do with the blowing of political winds, but is actually functional. Like the GT, the GT500 now has a cold air intake that sits directly behind the snake's former residence.

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2008/12/10shelbygt500_10_hr-1280.jpg

A revised duck-tail spoiler sits at the back end along the trailing edge of the trunk-lid and incorporates a Gurney flap. The faux diffuser along the bottom of the GT500's rump is now more prominent, although probably not any more functional. Regardless of the diffuser's functionality, the new GT500 does have more down-force thanks to that spoiler and the front splitter. The center of pressure has also been moved further forward, which should help reduce understeer at higher speeds.

The diffuser is flanked by a pair of four-inch diameter tail-pipes that could be used to patch your local water main the next time it bursts. The Shelby badging along the trailing edge of the trunk-lid also now stretches the width of the distance between the tail-lights, just like the original 2005 concept.

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2008/12/10shelbygt500_13_hr-1280.jpg

Supporting the still excessive mass (we'll get back to that) of the GT500 are new ten-spoke alloy wheels with a slimmer spoke design than before. Coupes and convertibles each get the same design but in different sizes and constructions. The rag-tops get a cast 18-inch version of the wheel, while closed-roof versions get a forged 19-inch construction. The forged version is both stronger and lighter than the smaller wheel compensating for the extra size. The sides of the spokes on the forged wheels are milled, helping to reduce the mass without sacrificing strength.

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2008/12/10shelbygt500_21_hr-1280.jpg

The leather seats inside the car now have pairs of longitudinal contrasting stripes that echo the stripes stretching the length of the body, as well as alcantara trim on the side bolsters, shift lever, parking braking boots and steering wheel. The traditional white cue-ball shift knob is now also adorned with a pair of black stripes parallel to the shaft of the short throw shifter. All of this is neither here nor there, as none one of these interior niceties makes the GT500 faster, turn better or stop better.

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For that we have to look in the engine compartment. The powerplant remains a twin cam 5.4L V8 with a supercharger. New additions to the power plant include knock sensors, the aforementioned cold-air intake and a lower restriction exhaust (http://forums.clubsi.com/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/3364504#) system. The updates bump output from from 500 hp at 6,000 rpm to 540 hp at 6,200 rpm. Twisting force also goes from 480 lb-ft at 4,500 rpm to 510 lb-ft at the same peak speed.

Unfortunately, one aspect that didn't change is the cast iron engine block. The aluminum block that was used in the Ford GT supercar had a dry sump system that can't be packaged in the Mustang. Thus, the iron block from the F-150 was used with the top end of the GT engine, which pushed the car's weight up over 3,900 lbs. That makes the GT500 both the heaviest and most powerful Mustang.

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2008/12/10shelbygt500_20_hr-1280.jpg

The top two ratios in the new GT500's gearbox have been made numerically lower to help reduce fuel (http://forums.clubsi.com/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/3364504#) consumption. As before, getting all the drive torque from the engine to the gears is the job of a dual plate clutch. The clutch plates have been increased in diameter from 215 mm to 250 mm. This allowed Ford to reduce the clutch pedal effort while improving the torque transmission capability.

All that torque flows from the Tremec 6-speed gearbox through a limited slip differential with a 3.55:1 final drive ratio. The 2010 GT500 gets 17% stiffer springs at the front axle and 7% stiffer at the rear axle. The forged alloys on the coupe are wrapped in Goodyear F1 Supercar rubber sized 255/40R19 front and 285/25R19 rear. The Brembo four-pot calipers are retained at the front and the GT500 also get the same standard electronic stability control that lesser Mustangs get for 2010.

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2008/12/10shelbygt500_18_hr-1280.jpg

Like the GT with the Track Pack, the ESC in the new GT500 always defaults on when the car is started, but can be turned off or put into a Sport mode. In Sport mode, the ESC allows greater amounts of slip before intervening.

The 2010 GT500 now has more power and presumably better handling than before. When we drove the last iterations of the GT500 and Bullitt, the Shelby was undoubtedly faster but the Bullitt was a better all-around car and daily driver. The Bullitt's lighter weight and better balance made it more fun to drive on the street while the blown Mustang was king at the Friday night drag races. Only time will tell if the GT500 can overcome.

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2008/12/10shelbygt500_16_hr-1280.jpg

jasonmiddletn
January 7th, 2009, 11:51 AM
Mark my words.....I'm sure they will auction one off at Barrett Jackson this month. I say it'll bring over $500,000! :eatpop:

N2 TRBL
January 7th, 2009, 11:55 AM
Very cool indeed. I wish they'd go on a major diet though.

jasonmiddletn
January 7th, 2009, 11:58 AM
Very cool indeed. I wish they'd go on a major diet though.

What is the weight?

N2 TRBL
January 7th, 2009, 12:00 PM
What is the weight?
3900lbs

N2 TRBL
January 7th, 2009, 12:01 PM
Looks
Unfortunately, one aspect that didn't change is the cast iron engine block. The aluminum block that was used in the Ford GT supercar had a dry sump system that can't be packaged in the Mustang. Thus, the iron block from the F-150 was used with the top end of the GT engine, which pushed the car's weight up over 3,900 lbs. That makes the GT500 both the heaviest and most powerful Mustang.


What is the weight?

3900lbs
:sad:

Rick530
January 7th, 2009, 03:03 PM
Wish Ford would get off there asses and disclose a final price for these. My girl is waiting to order one but as of the other day the dealership had no prices yet...

jasonmiddletn
January 7th, 2009, 04:56 PM
3900lbs

ooch!!

Hamrhead
January 7th, 2009, 05:04 PM
Wish our Viper engines were built as strong from the factory as the GT500's...:sad:

My Bud has an '08 GT500. Fun car to drive, and with minor mods he's pushing 565rwhp, but it is nose-heavy. (heavy all around)

Casey111
January 7th, 2009, 06:19 PM
i think it all looks really good except i dont really like the flow of the rear quarter panel.

Rocman
January 7th, 2009, 07:10 PM
Wish our Viper engines were built as strong from the factory as the GT500's...:sad:

My Bud has an '08 GT500. Fun car to drive, and with minor mods he's pushing 565rwhp, but it is nose-heavy. (heavy all around)

Yup. Not much is needed. The Eaton blower really screams once you put a pulley on it. :nana:

Other than that, it's ok. Nothing special.

TexRob
January 7th, 2009, 07:15 PM
I would Pimp one. :yep:

Arlington Texas
January 7th, 2009, 07:20 PM
i think it all looks really good except i dont really like the flow of the rear quarter panel. Nice ride, but I'm with you on the rear end the side view from rear quarter panel back was'nt that impressive.

Red Snake
January 7th, 2009, 07:22 PM
Wish our Viper engines were built as strong from the factory as the GT500's...:sad:

.......................

Some of our Viper engines are. :thumbs:

Vettetr
January 7th, 2009, 08:20 PM
Definately better lookin than last year.... Mouth's still too big:yep:

torquemonster
January 7th, 2009, 08:23 PM
Some of our Viper engines are. :thumbs:

agreed. The Viper engine foundation can take a big increase in power

torquemonster
January 7th, 2009, 08:24 PM
I like the GT500 - though I still wish they'd do a retro 69/70 platform car next, rather than stay with the 66-68 fastback theme.

I think a modern rendition of a 69/70 would be epic

dans69ss
January 7th, 2009, 08:34 PM
I bought one in 2007, kept in for 3 months and got rid of it. I was not impressed at all! I hate to say it, Carroll Shelby sold out!

Hamrhead
January 7th, 2009, 08:40 PM
Yup. Not much is needed. The Eaton blower really screams once you put a pulley on it. :nana:


Actually a smaller pulley on that Eaton and it's pretty much maxed out, but that's a 'Stage 1' type of upgrade. My Bud did this, a cold air intake, cat-delete and cat-back, and a Tune - Picked up 135rwhp (Stock 430'ish to 565rwhp after mods!!) Picked up about 15mph in the 1/4 too!

Multiple 'BIGGER' blowers are available for the GT500 from TVS, Whipple, and Kenne Bell.

Hell, Ford sells the TVS and if you let them do the install, you'll pick up ~80-100rwhp (over and above Stage 1) and keep your warranty!(So I've heard)

With the Whipple, I *think* the hood needs to be notched for clearance, but it makes insane power (like 700+ to the wheels) without ever removing the valve covers! The Kenne Bell makes BIG numbers as well.:thumbs:

MiSdIrEcTeD_1
January 11th, 2009, 08:54 PM
Somebody I know just ordered one :eatpop:

Wish I could justify having one as a daily driver to beat up on... :sad:

Hamrhead
January 11th, 2009, 09:06 PM
Somebody I know just ordered one :eatpop:

Wish I could justify having one as a daily driver to beat up on... :sad:
You and me both. If I didn't think gas was going to go back up to $4+/gallon, I'd have some BIG HP vehicle.

In reality, I guess I'll stick with my SVT Focus. Still fun to drive as it handles and brakes like a MoFo! Close ratio 6-speed w/ a Redline at 7,300 too! Though it ain't no Viper. Always good for at least 25mpg though.

vipermatt
January 11th, 2009, 10:22 PM
I'll the the price of the car that those fuckin stripes will still be stickers and the body will be cheap plastic

ViperJim
January 12th, 2009, 09:01 AM
Nice cars with some muscle. But the weight continues to burden the platform. If they could lower the weight down to 3600, the car would be more of a contender.

N2 TRBL
January 12th, 2009, 10:08 AM
Nice cars with some muscle. But the weight continues to burden the platform. If they could lower the weight down to 3100, the car would be more of a contender.
el fiixo :thumbs:

Ripper
January 12th, 2009, 10:50 AM
Car looks worlds better than the last model..

I agree with all .. Jenny Craig to the rescue on this Mustang..

I could only wish for this car to weigh 3100lbs..
That would be a great platform


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Hamrhead
January 12th, 2009, 08:08 PM
Here's the solution (sort of - it ain't the perfect vehicle):

3,400lbs. RWD. 460 HP & TQ. NO chance of hooking in a straight line!:rofl:

http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/roadtests/0404scc_ati_terminator_ford_focus/index.html


I'd love to do somthing like this if I had F-U money. I don't.:rolleyes:

klr snk 8
January 14th, 2009, 07:53 PM
I like it alot more then the 2010 mustangs, but I do not think they should be back the SVT name, but that just me

torquemonster
January 14th, 2009, 11:42 PM
Here's the solution (sort of - it ain't the perfect vehicle):

3,400lbs. RWD. 460 HP & TQ. NO chance of hooking in a straight line!:rofl:

http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/roadtests/0404scc_ati_terminator_ford_focus/index.html


I'd love to do somthing like this if I had F-U money. I don't.:rolleyes:

lol, reminds me of the W12 powered VW GTI they built. Outrageous in theory, but over-weight for the small package.

dun4791
January 15th, 2009, 10:15 AM
Guess I'm in the minority, but I don't like the looks. Notice how there is no pictures of the rear? The front fascia is the only redeeming quality on this car. I'm even less impressed after actually driving an 08. Ford can keep this one as far as I'm concerned.

Although I've never driven either......on looks alone I would take the Challenger, and then the Camaro. Both look a million times better in my opinion..........

MiSdIrEcTeD_1
January 15th, 2009, 10:20 AM
Guess I'm in the minority, but I don't like the looks. Notice how there is no pictures of the rear? The front fascia is the only redeeming quality on this car. I'm even less impressed after actually driving an 08. Ford can keep this one as far as I'm concerned.

Although I've never driven either......on looks alone I would take the Challenger, and then the Camaro. Both look a million times better in my opinion..........

Would take a quad-cab SRT-10 truck lol + some nice mods before I considered any of the aforementioned nostalgic looking pieces of crap.

dun4791
January 15th, 2009, 10:49 AM
Would take a quad-cab SRT-10 truck lol + some nice mods before I considered any of the aforementioned nostalgic looking pieces of crap.

Agreed....I like the new quad cab.

Rick530
January 19th, 2009, 11:11 AM
Mark my words.....I'm sure they will auction one off at Barrett Jackson this month. I say it'll bring over $500,000! :eatpop:
Was supposed to be Jan 17th but they pulled it from the roster. No clue why...