Hello from St.Louis

[klr snk 8]

Hello, I don't own a viper yet. I just sold my 03 cobra and now looking to get a viper, a 99-02 GTS, I been looking for a little bit and have not found one yet, So I thought join the forums and ask what is a good year for the GTS thanks

[SnakeDaddy]

Hello, I don't own a viper yet. I just sold my 03 cobra and now looking to get a viper, a 99-02 GTS, I been looking for a little bit and have not found one yet, So I thought join the forums and ask what is a good year for the GTS thanks

Do you know who klr snk's 1-7 are? :rofl:


I am partial to the 96 and 97 B/W GTS

[klr snk 8]

Do you know who klr snk's 1-7 are? :rofl:


I am partial to the 96 and 97 B/W GTS

I dont know but they are out there, i try to get 1-7 for my plate and 8 was the only one not used lol, keep the plate, one snake to a other snake

[NTXGTS]

So I thought join the forums and ask what is a good year for the GTS thanks

They are all great (IMHO). I too favor the 96 and 97 B/W, even though I bought a 98 solid silver. The price was too good to pass up. You will be happy with any of them. Check out http://www.theviperregistry.org/. You will be able to see the changes over the years and how many of any particular color were built. Enjoy:thumbs:

[SnakeDaddy]

They are all great (IMHO). I too favor the 96 and 97 B/W, even though I bought a 98 solid silver. The price was too good to pass up. You will be happy with any of them. Check out http://www.theviperregistry.org/. You will be able to see the changes over the years and how many of any particular color were built. Enjoy:thumbs:

What would be *MORE* beneficial would be a way to see how many of a particular year/color are still left!!! :evilgrin:

[NTXGTS]

That's a damn good point... May want to visit wreckedexotics.com as well!

[MiSdIrEcTeD_1]

Hello, I don't own a viper yet. I just sold my 03 cobra and now looking to get a viper, a 99-02 GTS, I been looking for a little bit and have not found one yet, So I thought join the forums and ask what is a good year for the GTS thanks

Depends on what your ultimate goals are. 96-99 came with some pretty decent forged internals, so thats where I would personally start.

Welcome to the site :thumbs:

[klr snk 8]

Depends on what your ultimate goals are.

Well to just a mild build, stock motor on a bottle and maybe a cam..., 600+hp, I will have Joe at PBJ tune the car, Then later in life about 2-3 years, Twin turbo the car.

[MiSdIrEcTeD_1]

Well to just a mild build, stock motor on a bottle and maybe a cam..., 600+hp, I will have Joe at PBJ tune the car, Then later in life about 2-3 years, Twin turbo the car.

Then, again, I would go with a 96-99. :yep: Itll hold the spray indefinately, then you can go for a full build. 01 and up are cast internal. You can always buy one and spray the shit out of it til it breaks, that way you have the excuse for rebulding for TT's :lol:

01 and up have anti-lock brakes too. Just thought Id mention.

[Red Snake]

Welcome. I'm in St. Louis and my 97 is a PBJ car. Joe is the man.:nana:

http://gallery.viperclub.org/data/500/medium/P9270290.JPG

http://gallery.viperclub.org/data/500/medium/P9270299.JPG

[dun4791]

Color should play a major role in your decision of what year GTS to purchase. I personally don't buy into the forged piston debate. If you do any serious modifications to the car the pistons,rods, and mains should all be changed anyway. The cast pistons are ok to boost 5 pounds and are ok for a heads/cam/nitrous setup. I bought a 2000 GTS mostly because it was Steel Grey, which in my opinion is the BEST color ever sprayed on a GTS. But among other things the 2000 has power mirrors and power hatch release, 10 quart oil pan instead of 8, 18 inch wheels,better cooling fan than the earlier models,textured better looking dash,the passenger air bag switch, tubular headers instead of the junk on the 96-97s...well you get the point. The B/W cars don't have any of those things. The 01-02 cars have ABS.

But realistically as long as you get a GenII GTS you can't go wrong.............

[klr snk 8]

Welcome. I'm in St. Louis and my 97 is a PBJ car. Joe is the man.:nana:

Ya, he has tuned and spec'd out the cam for it, and he is only 35 mins from my house, I think i seen your car down there. Im thinking 00 is the year im looking at getting.

[jasonmiddletn]

I had a NX 400 shot on my Roe S/C 01' GTS......it didn't really like of either!!:cursin:

[torquemonster]

welcome, hope you find a great deal :thumbs:

I like the 00 - 02 cars myself for the GTS simply because, as has been said, they had several improvements as an evolved version of the 96, plus for TT you have to tip out the internals and put new ones in anyway so cast pistons is no big deal.

[dun4791]

I had a NX 400 shot on my Roe S/C 01' GTS......it didn't really like of either!!:cursin:

400 shot...:nana:

[Red Snake]

I wanted the forged pistons in the '97. I run 10 pounds of boost on the stock internals. :nana:



:eatpop:

[MiSdIrEcTeD_1]

I wanted the forged pistons in the '97. I run 10 pounds of boost on the stock internals. :nana:



:eatpop:

Thats what Im talkin bout. :nana: Its fine and dandy for some of yall to buy a car and do a complete rebuild, but for us working folk, those stock forged goodies are a strong selling point :yep:

[Arlington Texas]

Color should play a major role in your decision of what year GTS to purchase. I personally don't buy into the forged piston debate. If you do any serious modifications to the car the pistons,rods, and mains should all be changed anyway. The cast pistons are ok to boost 5 pounds and are ok for a heads/cam/nitrous setup. I bought a 2000 GTS mostly because it was Steel Grey, which in my opinion is the BEST color ever sprayed on a GTS. But among other things the 2000 has power mirrors and power hatch release, 10 quart oil pan instead of 8, 18 inch wheels,better cooling fan than the earlier models,textured better looking dash,the passenger air bag switch, tubular headers instead of the junk on the 96-97s...well you get the point. The B/W cars don't have any of those things. The 01-02 cars have ABS.

But realistically as long as you get a GenII GTS you can't go wrong.............

:yep:

[Red Snake]

Thats what Im talkin bout. :nana: Its fine and dandy for some of yall to buy a car and do a complete rebuild, but for us working folk, those stock forged goodies are a strong selling point :yep:
:werd:



:thumbs:

[dun4791]

Thats what Im talkin bout. :nana: Its fine and dandy for some of yall to buy a car and do a complete rebuild, but for us working folk, those stock forged goodies are a strong selling point :yep:


True, as you would have to run 4 to 5 pounds less boost on the cast pistons safely with stock engines. Just want to put ALL of the info out there, and not just get stuck on the pistons......letting him know there are many other options that should be considered so that he can make an informed purchase.

[klr snk 8]

letting him know there are many other options that should be considered so that he can make an informed purchase.

Is there anything that makes 00+ better then the other gts, what is a diffents in body styles. I found a steel gray 00 gts acr but it a little far away and about 12k more then i was looking to spend, thanks

[Red Snake]

I personally did not get hung up on the ABS or anti-lock brakes. My car has EBC slotted/dimpled rotors and SRT brake calipers. It will probably out stop any stock ABS Viper out there.


For me, I can't leave anything stock. If you have that mod bug at all you are going to pay thru the nose to do engine mods on this car. The 97-99 also has the 708 cam. Listen to my car idling with the stock cam. A 2000-2002 does NOT have this lump when idling.:nana:

Damn putfile Link doesn't want to work. Can one of the Mods help out here?


http://media.putfile.com/ViperGTS

[dun4791]

Is there anything that makes 00+ better then the other gts, what is a diffents in body styles. I found a steel gray 00 gts acr but it a little far away and about 12k more then i was looking to spend, thanks

The 96-02 GTSs all have the same body panels, so no there is nothing better about styling among the GTSs.

You can always post up where a car is and see if there is a member on one of the boards that will go check it out for you. And right now asking price and what the owner is willing to accept could be drastically different. You are in a good position to be looking for a Viper right now. The prices on the GTS are the lowest I think they will ever be. I personally think the GTS will command a higher price than the new body style in the future. They only made so many GTSs.....the new ones they are still producing.

There is a lot of good info in this thread. When you find a few cars you are interested in...post them up. We will help you with any questions....or we might see something concerning to us that you might miss.

[dun4791]

Also........Red Snake brings up a good point. The 96-99 GTSs had a lumpier better sounding cam that also responds better to roller rockers than the 2000-2002 cars. I changed my cam though.......I can't leave anything stock either.

Here's a clip of what my GTS sounds like at idle for comparison.

YouTube - Underground Racing Custom Cam at Idle

[klr snk 8]

Also........Red Snake brings up a good point. The 96-99 GTSs had a lumpier better sounding cam that also responds better to roller rockers than the 2000-2002 cars. I changed my cam though.......I can't leave anything stock either.


I can't leave anything stock for more then a week. I know going to a viper from my cobra is going to be slower but will look so much better, I found a 98 GTS with Hennessey MAF, long tube headers, cat back, high flow cats, and i was told Only 837 GTS coupes were produced in 1998, 127 in silver.
And is only 10 mins from my house, the only thinks i know for sure, the car can not be yellow, red , or have stripes, You guys are helping me so much thanks

[dun4791]

I can't leave anything stock for more then a week. I know going to a viper from my cobra is going to be slower but will look so much better, I found a 98 GTS with Hennessey MAF, long tube headers, cat back, high flow cats, and i was told Only 837 GTS coupes were produced in 1998, 127 in silver.
And is only 10 mins from my house, the only thinks i know for sure, the car can not be yellow, red , or have stripes, You guys are helping me so much thanks

Post up a link or pics.........

[klr snk 8]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-Trucks___1998-VIPER-GTS-COUPE-1-OWNER-28-945-MI-SILVER-FAST-NICE_W0QQitemZ180319216206QQddnZCarsQ20Q26Q20Truck sQQddiZ2282QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash= item180319216206&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=72%3A727%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-Trucks___2000-VIPER-GTS-GREY-BLACK-27K-MILES-CALIFORNIA-CAR_W0QQitemZ110338563858QQddnZCarsQ20Q26Q20Trucks QQddiZ2282QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=i tem110338563858&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=72%3A727%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1308

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-Trucks___1-of-55-Made-GTS-Sapphire-Blue-Collectors-10K-Miles_W0QQitemZ150320451738QQddnZCarsQ20Q26Q20Truc ksQQddiZ2282QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash =item150320451738&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=72%3A727%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318

[Ram4whldr]

Those cars seem a little high for the mileage they have. Right now there is a guy on Viper Alley by the screen name of "Catwood" that I believe still has his car for sale. He is only asking $35,000 and that car is flawless and I believe it has less than 20,000 miles.

[Casey111]

Those cars seem a little high for the mileage they have. Right now there is a guy on Viper Alley by the screen name of "Catwood" that I believe still has his car for sale. He is only asking $35,000 and that car is flawless and I believe it has less than 20,000 miles.
WERD! If you have the cash, buy that car! Catwood is very respectible guy on the VA

[Ram4whldr]

Here is the link to his car!

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=p&car_id=253443106&dealer_id=63456893&car_year=2000&rdm=1231431851914&model=VIPER&num_records=25&systime=&make2=&highlightFirstMakeModel=&start_year=1981&keywordsfyc=&keywordsfyc=&keywordsrep=&keywordsrep=&engine=&certified=&body_code=0&fuel=&awsp=false&search_type=both&distance=10&marketZipError=false&search_lang=en&showZipError=n&make=DODGE&keywords_display=&color=&page_location=findacar%3A%3Aispsearchform&min_price=&drive=&default_sort=priceDESC&seller_type=b&max_mileage=&style_flag=1&sort_type=priceDESC&address=92127&advanced=&end_year=2010&doors=&transmission=&max_price=&cardist=0

[klr snk 8]

Here is the link to his car!

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=p&car_id=253443106&dealer_id=63456893&car_year=2000&rdm=1231431851914&model=VIPER&num_records=25&systime=&make2=&highlightFirstMakeModel=&start_year=1981&keywordsfyc=&keywordsfyc=&keywordsrep=&keywordsrep=&engine=&certified=&body_code=0&fuel=&awsp=false&search_type=both&distance=10&marketZipError=false&search_lang=en&showZipError=n&make=DODGE&keywords_display=&color=&page_location=findacar%3A%3Aispsearchform&min_price=&drive=&default_sort=priceDESC&seller_type=b&max_mileage=&style_flag=1&sort_type=priceDESC&address=92127&advanced=&end_year=2010&doors=&transmission=&max_price=&cardist=0

Well, I will give him a call tom. about the car, How much is it to ship a car now days, From CA to STL, last time I did it cost me 1200, for my SL600 about 2 years ago

[dun4791]

Catwoods car is steel grey, but it has stripes. He doesn't want stripes.

Did you look in the classifieds at viperalley.com and viperclub.org yet?

I don't live too far from the silver car. Still looking at the pics.

There was a 200 Steel Grey car on ebay last week with no stripes that had 3K miles on it. The buy it now was 43K. Maybe its on the ended auctions...dunno. It was in TX somewhere.

[Ram4whldr]

Also........Red Snake brings up a good point. The 96-99 GTSs had a lumpier better sounding cam that also responds better to roller rockers than the 2000-2002 cars. I changed my cam though.......I can't leave anything stock either.

Here's a clip of what my GTS sounds like at idle for comparison.

YouTube - Underground Racing Custom Cam at Idle (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kjrkuna5pXU)


I still freakin love the way your car sounds....do you have any more vids of that beast??? Still waiting to get mine done....might be a bit longer of a wait now since I am sending the girl to school. Can't wait :nana:

[dun4791]

I still freakin love the way your car sounds....do you have any more vids of that beast??? Still waiting to get mine done....might be a bit longer of a wait now since I am sending the girl to school. Can't wait :nana:

No, no more vids posted up. Johnny Bravo and ******* have the same cam though. Maybe one of them has some vids up..........

You will get to it one way or another..............The wait is horrible.

[dun4791]

If I was i the market...this would be my choice. But that should be obvious....HAHA

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-Trucks___2000-DODGE-VIPER-GTS-COUPE-ONE-OWNER-WINDOW-STICKER-3K_W0QQitemZ400022376854QQddnZCarsQ20Q26Q20TrucksQ QddiZ2282QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=it em400022376854&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=65%3A13%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1308

[Ram4whldr]

No, no more vids posted up. Johnny Bravo and ******* have the same cam though. Maybe one of them has some vids up..........

You will get to it one way or another..............The wait is horrible.

Wow....I didn't know that. I have heard vids of both of their cars. *******'s is ridiculously loud and Johnny Bravo's seems extremely quiet....must be all in the exhaust.

[dun4791]

Wow....I didn't know that. I have heard vids of both of their cars. *******'s is ridiculously loud and Johnny Bravo's seems extremely quiet....must be all in the exhaust.




I kept the stock tubular headers, no cats, and a Corsa catback.

I think Snor has aftermarketheaders, and no mufflers.

[dun4791]

Heres a black one.

http://classifieds.viperclub.org/showproduct.php?product=1965&cat=18

Heres a silver one..

http://classifieds.viperclub.org/showproduct.php?product=1245&cat=17

[klr snk 8]

Catwoods car is steel grey, but it has stripes. He doesn't want stripes.

Did you look in the classifieds at viperalley.com and viperclub.org yet?

I don't live too far from the silver car. Still looking at the pics.

There was a 200 Steel Grey car on ebay last week with no stripes that had 3K miles on it. The buy it now was 43K. Maybe its on the ended auctions...dunno. It was in TX somewhere.


You are close to the silver one in chicago?

[dun4791]

You are close to the silver one in chicago?

Yes. Im probably about an hour away.

[klr snk 8]

Yes. Im probably about an hour away.

Im in chicago right now, i drove by the place today, i going to talk to him tom.

[Too Blue]

Well to just a mild build, stock motor on a bottle and maybe a cam..., 600+hp, I will have Joe at PBJ tune the car, Then later in life about 2-3 years, Twin turbo the car.

No doubt, your new to Vipers...

[Too Blue]

Welcome. I'm in St. Louis and my 97 is a PBJ car. Joe is the man.:nana:




:haha::rofl::rofl:

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[Too Blue]

Then, again, I would go with a 96-99. :yep: Itll hold the spray indefinately, then you can go for a full build. 01 and up are cast internal. You can always buy one and spray the shit out of it til it breaks, that way you have the excuse for rebulding for TT's :lol:

01 and up have anti-lock brakes too. Just thought Id mention.

That being said, I would plan on building the TTs' shortly after your first tune...:scared:

[Too Blue]

Ya, he has tuned and spec'd out the cam for it, and he is only 35 mins from my house, I think i seen your car down there. Im thinking 00 is the year im looking at getting.

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[Red Snake]

Tell us how you really feel Mike. :lol:


:D

[Too Blue]

Tell us how you really feel Mike. :lol:


:D


:nope:

[Too Blue]

Tell us how you really feel Mike. :lol:


:D

Thanks Tim. I just scrolled up...

Guess it's kind of obvious, huh...:lol:

[Red Snake]

Thanks Tim. I just scrolled up...

Guess it's kind of obvious, huh...:lol:

Just a little bit. :lol:


I know you have your reasons though. :thumbs:

[Too Blue]

Im in chicago right now, i drove by the place today, i going to talk to him tom.

There are several cars here in St. Louis for sale. XVIPERS is 40 min. west. PREMIER MOTORS is an hour away in Springfield. I think we mentioned that to you on another Forum.

Good luck

[*******]

I kept the stock tubular headers, no cats, and a Corsa catback.

I think Snor has aftermarketheaders, and no mufflers.I also have headers, no cats and a Corsa catback.

Welcome to the OP. I still have my '03 Cobra. That's a 3.4 on a 302 with ported heads and cams. That was the old combo. It now has the Whipple "Crusher" inlet and a return fuel system. It made 720 rwhp on the old setup, and I'm hoping for 775+ on the new combo (on pump gas).
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