View Full Version : HEY RIPPER... (The Heffner Gallardo thread)
KRAZYPSI
October 28th, 2008, 08:44 PM
can you guess who this is? :rofl:
WAR HACKFFER
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj144/jordanlovescars/acehackffer.jpg
Ripper
October 28th, 2008, 08:48 PM
can you guess who this is? :rofl:
WAR HACKFFER
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj144/jordanlovescars/acehackffer.jpg
:haha::haha::haha::haha::haha:
KRAZYPSI
October 28th, 2008, 09:08 PM
:haha::haha::haha::haha::haha:
Notice on the ACE door that they are having a dollar day special. Here are some one dollar items on special.
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj144/jordanlovescars/heffmart.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj144/jordanlovescars/heffnerthehack.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj144/jordanlovescars/hackffer.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj144/jordanlovescars/heffnerthehcker.jpg
MiSdIrEcTeD_1
October 28th, 2008, 09:18 PM
:eatpop:
AZZKIKR
October 28th, 2008, 09:25 PM
:haha::haha:
KRAZYPSI
October 28th, 2008, 09:49 PM
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj144/jordanlovescars/spareheffparts.jpg
KRAZYPSI
October 28th, 2008, 09:50 PM
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj144/jordanlovescars/heffandsave.jpg
KRAZYPSI
October 28th, 2008, 09:52 PM
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj144/jordanlovescars/heffnerscheapboost.jpg
KRAZYPSI
October 28th, 2008, 09:53 PM
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj144/jordanlovescars/neckferrcatback.jpg
KRAZYPSI
October 28th, 2008, 09:53 PM
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj144/jordanlovescars/hackfferturbosjbg.jpg
torquemonster
October 29th, 2008, 01:55 AM
:haha::haha::haha::haha:
That was money... I mean funny
:rofl:
MrsMonster
October 29th, 2008, 02:01 AM
Good Lord! I haven't heard Barry laugh that loud in a wee while. I knew it had to be a ripper! (Sorry, Ripper, no pun intended)
I've been to Heffner's shop... I'm pretty sure I've seen those piles.
:eatpop:
Red Snake
October 29th, 2008, 07:07 AM
Oh damn....:lol:
Ripper
October 29th, 2008, 08:01 AM
:haha::haha::haha::haha::haha::haha:
KRAZYPSI
October 29th, 2008, 09:05 AM
Check out the real pictures on Ripper's thread over at the Alley so you can realize how accurate these bargain Hackffer tools are...
My Decision to change my Gallardo TT System
I have received quite a few questions lately from friends and internet acquaintances about my recent decision to remove my present Gallardo twin turbo system and go with a different tuner and a completely different system. I am not losing my mind and I am not engaging is any sort of vendetta against any tuner.
My decision was based on two straight forward factors.
The first was a desire for increased performance. My previous system was at it's maximum in it's engineering configuration and I was told there were no options to go any further. Underground offered me the performance I was looking for with a free two year 24,000 mile warranty and free enclosed shipping to and from their facility. I will provide factual evidence in this thread to support my decision regarding this factor in the form of dyno graphs and street performance videos.
The second factor was engineering design and component quality. The Underground option is clearly in my view on another level and I will show you what I used to make my judgement with comparison pictures and let you draw your own conclusions. The Gallardo is a vehicle platform that deserves the best design, workmanship and components available if it is going to be heavily modified.
As you can see in the pictures, there are virtually no areas of the engineering/design that are remotely the same. Those who have alleged this system is a copy of anything are delusional. The materials and quality of the build are notably superior with the UR package and at the same price point.
I am comfortable with my conclusions and my decision I might add, was not a hard one to make.
Fuel System
Pic of my fuel system: (Note the brass "T" tapped into the factory feed line)
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n111/jken04/Heffnerfuel.jpg
Pic of the UGR fuel system
The UGR System has returns for Both sides of their additional system (Anodized Fittings) as the car has a factory crossover design and can run one tank lower than another and also a set of Billet Hangers that house an additional pump inside each fuel tank for a true dedicated fuel system)
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n111/jken04/UndergroundReturnononeside.jpg
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n111/jken04/URfuelsystem.jpg
Injectors
Pics of My Injectors
Comparison
Mine is on the right (stock Viper injector vs. 60lbs. on the left)
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n111/jken04/lambopics007.jpg
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n111/jken04/Leftisa60poundRightisastockViper.jpg
This panel in my car shows routing of the extra injector’s wiring harness. I discovered after removing it you can access the fuel pumps.
Mine
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n111/jken04/RippersHeffnerTTG035.jpg
UGR’s (Note the routing of the wiring harness through the factory grommet in the far left of the pic in the split loom)
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n111/jken04/DSC05834.jpg
Electronics
My AEM that only controls Fuel delivery and No timing or boost control. ( Note wiring , electrical tape and bare wires near the AEM connectors )
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n111/jken04/RippersHeffnerTTG037.jpg
UGR offers two systems. An AEM and a Motec. Both control fuel delivery , timing, and boost control.
Shown is the Motec system.
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n111/jken04/LamboMotec22.jpg
Boost Control
Pic of my current boost control (Location is under the exhaust cover at the rear most passenger side of the car which makes boost changes a challenge. The unit has a cockpit mounted switch to make the change from a pump gas mode to a race gas mode only. Any other adjustments must be made manually )
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n111/jken04/MoreofRippersLambo023.jpg
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n111/jken04/Heffnerboostcontrol22.jpg
KRAZYPSI
October 29th, 2008, 09:07 AM
UGR Boost Control
The UGR System has a remote controller that enables the driver to change
boost setting on the fly from the drivers seat. It has adjustable gain setting’s for ramping of boost in any gear. It is a fully adjustable electronic controlled system)
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n111/jken04/UndergroundBoostcontrol.jpg
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n111/jken04/photo.jpg
Mid Pipes
Comparison Pics
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n111/jken04/MoreofRippersLambo031.jpg
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n111/jken04/MoreofRippersLambo033.jpg
Mine
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n111/jken04/MoreofRippersLambo035.jpg
UGR’s
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n111/jken04/MoreofRippersLambo037.jpg
Cat Back
Mine (Note the lack of any mufflers. Car was extremely loud with a sound that was less than desirable )
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n111/jken04/lambopics009.jpg
UGR’s (Note the X design and two round Burns mufflers for a quieter and more desirable true exotic sound)
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n111/jken04/MoreofRippersLambo046.jpg
Mine
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n111/jken04/MoreofRippersLambo020.jpg
UGR’s
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n111/jken04/Lambo_TT_completed_020.jpg
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KRAZYPSI
October 29th, 2008, 09:09 AM
Turbo’s
Mine
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n111/jken04/Heffnerturbo2.jpg
UGR’s
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n111/jken04/Underground-1.jpg
Mine
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n111/jken04/Heffnerturbo1.jpg
UGR’s (Note the CNC Billet Impeller design which is more efficient , lighter and a stronger turbo design)
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n111/jken04/billetwheel1.jpg
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n111/jken04/billetwheels3.jpg
Mine (Non Coated Standard Non Billet Design)
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n111/jken04/MoreofRippersLambo021.jpg
UGR’s ( Coated Turbo’s which provide corrosion protection This design also offers superior heat protection and less heat soak which provides more power)
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n111/jken04/UR-2.jpg
Intercooler
Comparison Pics (The UGR Intercooler is substantially larger and a more efficient design which I need here in TX for our hot summer months.)
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n111/jken04/MoreofRippersLambo039.jpg
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n111/jken04/MoreofRippersLambo040.jpg
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n111/jken04/MoreofRippersLambo042.jpg
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KRAZYPSI
October 29th, 2008, 09:11 AM
Water Tank
Comparison Pics
Mine (Unit was mounted in the front trunk compartment. Note the gaping hole for the water hose.)
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n111/jken04/DSC05823.jpg
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n111/jken04/DSC05824.jpg
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n111/jken04/DSC05826.jpg
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n111/jken04/DSC05830.jpg
UGR’s (Bigger water tank with large removable lid for adding extra ice also close proximity to intercooler for more efficiency.)
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n111/jken04/ice_cooler_003.jpg
Dyno Graph with No Smoothing and an SAE setting
My current configuration:
Race gas and boost of 17psi (Note the lean condition at the higher RPM’s )
I will provide a graph of the UGR Turbo System once installed and tuned.
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n111/jken04/Ripper-HeffnerTTG.jpg
Here is a Video of my car up against Kyle’s UGR TT before we started tearing it down.
We ran the car on the power level and settings you see above.
YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6mMQqPdVIw) - Twin Turbo Lamborghini Gallardo Street Race
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AZZKIKR
October 29th, 2008, 09:20 AM
Just be aware of what you might find when your tear the engine apart! Digging into the engine would be like digging for terds in a toilet.. Just like the rest of the build, why expect anything more than SHIT.
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r174/2005viper/Post%20pics/heffnercopy.jpg
KRAZYPSI
October 29th, 2008, 09:27 AM
Now I know why Jason Hackffer did not try to defend himself after Ripper posted those damaging pictures. What a waste of 60k!
As I might have expected, Jason has decided to kill the messenger instead of addressing the message. He posted this response to my thread over at Lambo Power where he has total control of the board content. Any attempt to respond over there is pointless as they have already changed my screen name to mock me and will not allow the truth to be stated. I am bringing Jason's response over here to Viper Alley as this site will allow a free and open exchange. I welcome Jason to reappear here and defend the attacks he has made publicly on my integrity. Jason's response is first listed in it's total and then again with my responses to Jason's post appearing within his comments as red text.
Wow Jerry! I am astonished by the lack of integrity you have conducted yourself with since becoming affiliated with UR. I really have no interest in an Internet brawl but there are a few facts worth mentioning here.
1. You had the very first 1000 horsepower version of our twin turbo system. When we set out to build a system that produced 1000 horsepower we took the time to size all of the components properly for the purpose intended such as injectors, turbos, fuel pumps and intercooler. Your car went together and exceeded the goals that we set out to accomplish. Your friend Chris picked the car up from our shop and drove the car straight from Florida to Texas. After that you had the pleasure of driving the car for several thousand more miles without issue aside from a clutch that you killed at the drag strip which was purely driver error. During the entirety of your experience with our system you expressed nothing but happiness with the system that we provided you with.
2. Automotive technology is an ever evolving beast. Since you took delivery of your car there are a number of technological advancements that have become available to the tuner world. Since your build there have been several new developments and options made available as well as several changes made to the system in an effort to make the system more powerful while maintaining if not increasing the reliability. Some of the changes since your build include a redesigned water tank, upgraded wastegates, a more advanced boost control system, a number of different muffler options to suit each customer's desire and different turbos just to name a few.
3. You note that your boost controller was located in a position that made it difficult to change boost levels aside from the switch that allows you to switch between race gas and pump gas. This is by design. Prior to this build you had already displayed your willingness to operate a boost controller in an irresponsible manner. Making it difficult for you to access the boost controller was part of an effort to prevent you from making adjustments in your own garage that may damage your engine. Unbelievably enough you decided to start turning up the boost on your own anyhow. Once you turned up the boost and the engine management system began to cut fuel which is a safety feature to prevent you from over boosting your engine, what did you do? You called Kevin at Underground who was more than happy to walk you through the process of eliminating the boost cut feature so you were then able to run as much boost as you desired. Why wouldn't he? If he helped you damage your engine it only makes me look bad, right?
4. When your car was originally delivered to you it was making between 12.5 and 13.0 psi. Since then you have taken the car to your friends dyno, turned up the boost and then bragged to myself and several other forum members that your car was making nearly 1000 rwhp and that you observed safe air / fuel ratios. Now that you have an agenda you have changed your statement regarding power levels and air / fuel ratios to suit your needs.
5. Regarding your comparison photos of different pieces of piping and such, will you be so kind as to post pictures of your Underground piping once you have put several thousand miles on them so we can see if they still retain their showroom shine? My guess is that unless someone has located a batch of magic polish they will be discolored from heat like any other piece of stainless steel tubing would.
6. I think it is worth noting that to date you have enjoyed ZERO trouble free miles behind the wheel of your Underground TT Gallardo that you praise so much. The car that we built for you has more road miles on it with the turbo system than every turbo Gallardo ever built by all other tuners combined. Every piece of these cars has it's own limits to what it will handle through time. To believe that the components of these cars will survive for any significant period of time making triple the power they were intended to endure is nothing short of asinine. Does your two year warranty cover your transmission, halfshafts, differentials and chassis? My guess is no. Well, these are the areas that are most likely to be damaged by zipping around with 1200+ rwhp. I have seen it on other cars and Gallardos are certainly not impervious to breakage. Please let us know how exciting it is the first time you have to tow your car to the repair shop to have a new thirty thousand dollar transmission installed.
7. I thank you for posting the video and dyno sheets that you did. They do an excellent job of displaying what can happen when inexperienced car enthusiasts such as yourself decide to take tuning into their own hands. The last time you decided to turn up the boost in your garage, did you take the car to the dyno and verify that it was safe or did you just crank the boost knob and let it fly? (you don't have to answer that, we both already know the answer.)
We at Heffner Performance, Inc. are strongly committed to fulfilling the desires of our customers. They are who make us what we are. To date our fleet of over twenty twin turbo Gallardos has cumulatively logged over one hundred thousand miles on the road in numerous different countries. We are witnessing a step in an evolutionary process and ultimately speaking, we will not be outdone. There are many who will not be happy about what the not so distant future will reveal.
I hope you are happy with your car once it is completed though you should be ashamed of how you have conducted yourself in recent times.
My responses now appearing in red.
Wow Jerry! I am astonished by the lack of integrity you have conducted yourself with since becoming affiliated with UR. I really have no interest in an Internet brawl but there are a few facts worth mentioning here.
Wow Jason! I am astonished to see you actually posting under your own screen name for a change. It's nice to have you out in the open carrying your own mail. My conduct has nothing to do with my association with UR. My association with UR is the result of realizing what a poor job you did with the system on my Gallardo as evidenced by the damage you inflicted on my $160,000 car. I'm not the first customer or friend you have tossed under the bus after daring to not be satisfied with your product and service and I know I won't be the last. It was not my intention to make this an unrestricted airing of all my problems with your service but since you have taken to trashing me in every regard, let's get the truth out there.
1. You had the very first 1000 horsepower version of our twin turbo system.
My car never made 1000 horsepower and you know it. To this date despite repeated request, you have yet to give me a dyno sheet on my Gallardo build.
When we set out to build a system that produced 1000 horsepower we took the time to size all of the components properly for the purpose intended such as injectors, turbos, fuel pumps and intercooler. Your car went together and exceeded the goals that we set out to accomplish.
Wrong again Jason. As you can see by the dyno graph in this thread, my car runs out of fuel well before approaching 1000 horsepower.
Your friend Chris picked the car up from our shop and drove the car straight from Florida to Texas. After that you had the pleasure of driving the car for several thousand more miles without issue aside from a clutch that you killed at the drag strip which was purely driver error.
Yes I have burned clutch due to driver error, you in turn have destroyed a customer's car due to driver's error so forgive me if I consider myself to trail you in that category.
During the entirety of your experience with our system you expressed nothing but happiness with the system that we provided you with.
My car as delivered to me in Texas had the boost turned down from where you demonstrated it to me in Florida. I assumed you do that to avoid any warranty issues by running the cars in a detuned fashion. I haven't been totally happy and you know that. In fact one of the reasons I have decided to go with another tuner was getting tired of you not responding to the issues I had with your build.....
KRAZYPSI
October 29th, 2008, 09:29 AM
2. Automotive technology is an ever evolving beast. Since you took delivery of your car there are a number of technological advancements that have become available to the tuner world. Since your build there have been several new developments and options made available as well as several changes made to the system in an effort to make the system more powerful while maintaining if not increasing the reliability. Some of the changes since your build include a redesigned water tank, upgraded wastegates, a more advanced boost control system, a number of different muffler options to suit each customer's desire and different turbos just to name a few. Did you stop using rats to chew holes in the customer's trunk to route the cooling tank hoses? Did you stop using electrical tape on wires integrating the AEM into the system? Did you buy a hole saw from Harbor Freight instead of using a hack saw to disfigure the fuel cover plate assembly in order to route electrical wires across a jagged piece of metal? Did you stop using the pit boy at the Tune and Lube to build your ice tanks in his off hours? If so that's great to hear because what you put on my car doesn't belong on a dune buggy let alone a Gallardo.
3. You note that your boost controller was located in a position that made it difficult to change boost levels aside from the switch that allows you to switch between race gas and pump gas. This is by design. Prior to this build you had already displayed your willingness to operate a boost controller in an irresponsible manner.Wanting more power is irresponsible? I just wanted the power here in Texas that you showed me in Florida and I didn't get it. Making it difficult for you to access the boost controller was part of an effort to prevent you from making adjustments in your own garage that may damage your engine. Unbelievably enough you decided to start turning up the boost on your own anyhow.The car you delivered back to me was set at 12 pounds of boost, far lower and making far less horsepower than when you demonstrated it to me in Florida. Once you turned up the boost and the engine management system began to cut fuel which is a safety feature to prevent you from over boosting your engine, what did you do? You called Kevin at Underground who was more than happy to walk you through the process of eliminating the boost cut feature so you were then able to run as much boost as you desired. Why wouldn't he? If he helped you damage your engine it only makes me look bad, right? What makes you look bad Jason is the pictures I posted in this thread that display for anyone to see what the level of quality and design went into my $60,000 build. You should be ashamed but shame is something your ego will never allow.
4. When your car was originally delivered to you it was making between 12.5 and 13.0 psi. Since then you have taken the car to your friends dyno, turned up the boost and then bragged to myself and several other forum members that your car was making nearly 1000 rwhp and that you observed safe air / fuel ratios. Now that you have an agenda you have changed your statement regarding power levels and air / fuel ratios to suit your needs. I am guilty of assuming that by turning up the boost to 17psi that my car was making 1000 horsepower as you lead me to believe. I was wrong to say that it did because I never did see those numbers on the dyno. Again the fuel system you installed on my car, the used stock Viper injectors, is not capable of 1,000 hp.
5. Regarding your comparison photos of different pieces of piping and such, will you be so kind as to post pictures of your Underground piping once you have put several thousand miles on them so we can see if they still retain their showroom shine? My guess is that unless someone has located a batch of magic polish they will be discolored from heat like any other piece of stainless steel tubing would. If all you saw looking at those pictures was shine then you really are in denial. I know that's what you have been telling all your existing customer's and having them parrot all over the internet but the pictures tell a very different story. Look again at the butchered up job you did to my car. Do you really think that any of the UR build is going to look like any your stuff after any amount of miles?
6. I think it is worth noting that to date you have enjoyed ZERO trouble free miles behind the wheel of your Underground TT Gallardo that you praise so much. The car that we built for you has more road miles on it with the turbo system than every turbo Gallardo ever built by all other tuners combined.No it doesn't. Doug Levin has several Gallardos on the road. Every piece of these cars has it's own limits to what it will handle through time. To believe that the components of these cars will survive for any significant period of time making triple the power they were intended to endure is nothing short of asinine.What is asinine is your telling customers that "it's all the Gallardo can handle" as an excuse to build a mediocre car. Does your two year warranty cover your transmission, halfshafts, differentials and chassis? My guess is no. Well, these are the areas that are most likely to be damaged by zipping around with 1200+ rwhp. I have seen it on other cars and Gallardos are certainly not impervious to breakage. Please let us know how exciting it is the first time you have to tow your car to the repair shop to have a new thirty thousand dollar transmission installed. This is something you have never understood. The customer determined his threshold for cost when turning up the wick, not you.
7. I thank you for posting the video and dyno sheets that you did. They do an excellent job of displaying what can happen when inexperienced car enthusiasts such as yourself decide to take tuning into their own hands. The last time you decided to turn up the boost in your garage, did you take the car to the dyno and verify that it was safe or did you just crank the boost knob and let it fly? (you don't have to answer that, we both already know the answer.)I damaged my own car, owned up to it and had it fixed. I screw up I admit it, you should try the technique. Why don't you tell us about how you handled the insurance recovery on the customer's car you wrecked due to your own inexperience. Do you want to own up to that one?
We at Heffner Performance, Inc. are strongly committed to fulfilling the desires of our customers.I left you because you failed in this with me.They are who make us what we are. To date our fleet of over twenty twin turbo Gallardos has cumulatively logged over one hundred thousand miles on the road in numerous different countries.You should be more forthright about the problems your cars have had instead of calling people on the phone and asking them to lie for you in covering up those problems. You asked me to lie on the Torquemonster thread and foolishly I did. I am apologizing to the forum right here for having done so. We are witnessing a step in an evolutionary process and ultimately speaking, we will not be outdone.Outdone is inadequate in describing what has been done to you with the UR build. That is precisely why you came out of hiding with this post instead of using the moderators at Lambo Power to do your dirty work. You have been owned, look again at the pictures and drop your silly position that the UR cars aren't proven.There are many who will not be happy about what the not so distant future will reveal.
I hope you are happy with your car once it is completed though you should be ashamed of how you have conducted yourself in recent times.You don't hope I'm happy with anything so stop with the phony public well wishes. Since I announced my decision to upgrade my car you have done everything you can to discredit me as a customer. If there is shame to be acknowledged here, it's you who should wear it for trashing me and for hacking up my car as you did. As I mentioned earlier, it's not a part of who you are and I accept that. The truth has set me free and it's a feeling I expect you will never experience.
KRAZYPSI
October 29th, 2008, 09:31 AM
Bill's post pretty much sums up Heffner's quality of work.:rofl::rofl:
Oh come on, recycled viper injectors, hacking holes in panels that looks like it was done by a blind epileptic who had a 4" disc grinder duct taped to his foot, home-depot plumbing fittings, rusty trombone... err turbines, that's top quality shit man. You know it was all done as value engineering so they could put more resources into the super high end components that actually matter.
Oh wait. . .
All this shit was brought up ages ago about the viper systems and everyone continued to gargle Big Red's balls for some reason that can only be described as epic, monumental, ginormous ignorance.
IMO, the only reason people continue to think that shit is the best, is so they don't want to jump off a bridge for having 50 large wrapped up in scrap metal.
WAR SOMEONE STOLE MY TT KIT SO THEY COULD RECYCLE THE COPPER
Ripper
October 29th, 2008, 02:11 PM
Bill's post pretty much sums up Heffner's quality of work.:rofl::rofl:
Yes It Does Chris..
Thanks for posting the thread here for all to see...
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Arlington Texas
October 29th, 2008, 04:02 PM
All I can say is that's fucked:nope:
ROGUEGTS
October 29th, 2008, 04:22 PM
I even crack myself up at times... rusty trombone, that's solid. :rofl:
KRAZYPSI
October 29th, 2008, 06:15 PM
I even crack myself up at times... rusty trombone, that's solid. :rofl:
:haha:
torquemonster
October 30th, 2008, 12:46 AM
Ripper to Heffner: You should be more forthright about the problems your cars have had instead of calling people on the phone and asking them to lie for you in covering up those problems. You asked me to lie on the Torquemonster thread and foolishly I did. I am apologizing to the forum right here for having done so.
You were not the only one that got a call, nor the only one to agree. If it makes you feel any better a tuner did the same thing.
People know the truth now, though it's not an issue I wish to banter anymore....
FWIW Mrs Monster kept all the original posts that got deleted on the VA. :yep:
In the eyes of some we were made to look fools but thinking people saw the truth. I could give a rats ass we took a few body blows to deliver the package :D I'm sick of wankers in this industry promising candy and delivering shit on a stick. If that offends someone, tough shit, they can waste all their money and convince themselves they did good :nana:
WAR - I'm fast when I'm not broke
torquemonster
October 30th, 2008, 12:49 AM
Bill's post pretty much sums up Heffner's quality of work.:rofl::rofl:
:yep:
Anyone want a used broken Viper TT that spends more time off road than on it? :fiddle:
WAR it's bloody good when it's actually going
Ripper
October 30th, 2008, 09:50 AM
You were not the only one that got a call, nor the only one to agree. If it makes you feel any better a tuner did the same thing.
People know the truth now, though it's not an issue I wish to banter anymore....
FWIW Mrs Monster kept all the original posts that got deleted on the VA. :yep:
In the eyes of some we were made to look fools but thinking people saw the truth. I could give a rats ass we took a few body blows to deliver the package :D I'm sick of wankers in this industry promising candy and delivering shit on a stick. If that offends someone, tough shit, they can waste all their money and convince themselves they did good :nana:
WAR - I'm fast when I'm not broke
Agreed.
Once Again, My Sincere Apologies.
:cheers:
WAR...SOMEONE PUT PISS IN THE KOOL AID... SO DON'T DRINK THAT SHIT!
Floorin04
October 30th, 2008, 07:39 PM
excuse me for stepping in on all this but wow cannot understand why the "hack job"comparing the two.What the hell happened to heffner, sun stroke or what??I was under the assumption he was one of the best.Is his work on the fords an vipers the same??
Not sure where the hell I was during all this over at the alley
04mystic
October 30th, 2008, 11:10 PM
Cant wait to see the finished product Ripper. You have opened alot of eyes.I bet Heffner is wishiing he would have kept you quiet
Ripper
October 31st, 2008, 08:22 AM
Cant wait to see the finished product Ripper. You have opened alot of eyes.I bet Heffner is wishiing he would have kept you quiet
I will be posting more pics and documentation as we move along
with the build.
He had his chance to keep me quiet. I am a very patient
person and have been understanding as well.
AZZKIKR
October 31st, 2008, 10:15 AM
Keep us posted on that build, Ripper! it will be bad ass! Too bad that you've had to do it twice..
KRAZYPSI
October 31st, 2008, 04:30 PM
excuse me for stepping in on all this but wow cannot understand why the "hack job"comparing the two.What the hell happened to heffner, sun stroke or what??I was under the assumption he was one of the best.Is his work on the fords an vipers the same??
Not sure where the hell I was during all this over at the alley
Don't feel bad for falling for Heffner's candy coated turds. Jason is an expert at fooling people with polished tubes and intakes.
torquemonster
December 14th, 2008, 08:18 PM
I had someone call JH about your car Ripper, and I received back assurances advising you to not be hating, because along with all the "oh mans", the following certificate has been awarded to you.
He was very sorry that the money is all gone, but wanted you to know you were loved and will be missed.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v14/Torquemonster/Funnies/HPCertificateofRecognition.jpg
file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/Owner/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/moz-screenshot.jpg
PS: he also said he ran out of time to quite finish it, so asked if you'd mind adding your own name...
cheers bro, I guess this squares things up between you two then
MrsMonster
December 14th, 2008, 08:43 PM
Don't feel bad for falling for Heffner's candy coated turds. Jason is an expert at fooling people with polished tubes and intakes.
...and the written word :rolleyes:
His word isn't worth the breath it's printed on
Boy, that was harsh.
twinturbo3150
December 14th, 2008, 09:29 PM
please STOP it, my gut hurts from laughing so hard
Ripper
December 15th, 2008, 08:45 AM
I had someone call JH about your car Ripper, and I received back assurances advising you to not be hating, because along with all the "oh mans", the following certificate has been awarded to you.
He was very sorry that the money is all gone, but wanted you to know you were loved and will be missed.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v14/Torquemonster/Funnies/HPCertificateofRecognition.jpg
file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/Owner/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/moz-screenshot.jpg
PS: he also said he ran out of time to quite finish it, so asked if you'd mind adding your own name...
cheers bro, I guess this squares things up between you two then
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