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MiSdIrEcTeD_1
November 1st, 2008, 11:28 AM
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2008/10/lolchallenger_opt.jpg

... and Viper of course too, but we already knew that was coming...

STORY (http://www.autoblog.com/2008/10/30/told-you-so-consultant-says-gm-merger-would-eliminate-chrysler/)

Earlier this week we published a Battle Royale between General Motors and Chrysler (http://www.autoblog.com/photos/battle-royale-gm-vs-chrysler/1121964/) in order to determine in a fun way which vehicles from each automaker that compete directly in the marketplace would survive if the two merged. Out of 12 matchups, GM vehicles won eight and Chrysler four. A new report by consulting firm Grant Thornton LLP largely confirms that our experiment was spot on. The report says that if a GM/Chrysler merger happens, only the Dodge Ram, Chrysler and Dodge minivans and a few Jeep models will survive. We had the Ram and Wrangler as survivors on our list, though perhaps we were too generous giving the dated Dodge Dakota and slow-selling Jeep Patriot stays of execution. Either way, the point is that Chrysler's model lineup across all three brands would largely be wiped out if a merger with GM happens, as well as the plants that build those models and the workers who do the building.

Arlington Texas
November 1st, 2008, 05:15 PM
That's not good, but with limited number of the challengers they will definately be worth some decent coin down the road.

281cammer
November 1st, 2008, 09:10 PM
Damn that would suck! Guess only time will tell

Ripper
November 1st, 2008, 09:26 PM
It is going to get interesting...

Dodge is going broke and GM is really not out
of the woods yet..

281cammer.. You are right my friend.. Only time will tell..


Irving Texas.. I have thought about buying one of these..
Maybe no better time than now.. :yep:




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Arlington Texas
November 2nd, 2008, 08:06 AM
It is going to get interesting...

Dodge is going broke and GM is really not out
of the woods yet..

281cammer.. You are right my friend.. Only time will tell..


Irving Texas.. I have thought about buying one of these..
Maybe no better time than now.. :yep:




. Cool car either way, It looks like a no brainer:yep:

N2 TRBL
November 3rd, 2008, 09:54 AM
yup, the market on these will go up...make you not want to drive your Viper / Challenger though :scared:

HIGHPSI
November 12th, 2008, 07:07 PM
I would really like to pick one of those up. Hate to see it go.

b3rndtt0ast
November 13th, 2008, 03:48 AM
It is going to get interesting...

Dodge is going broke and GM is really not out
of the woods yet..

281cammer.. You are right my friend.. Only time will tell..


Irving Texas.. I have thought about buying one of these..
Maybe no better time than now.. :yep:




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dodge, Chrysler, or GM..??

SUN RA KAT
November 13th, 2008, 10:29 AM
Toyota's in trouble, too - exerpt from a news story today -

Everyone knows General Motors, Ford and Chrysler are in deep, deep trouble. Cratering sales, credit downgrades and cash reserves that are dwindling faster than a keg at a frat party have some analysts saying we may see one or two of the Big Three go down for good (http://blog.wired.com/cars/2008/11/motor-city-coul.html). Critics like to say Detroit's getting what it deserves because the Japanese build better cars, but guess what -- Toyota isn't looking so great these days, either.

Toyota's stock nosedived 17 percent (http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601101&sid=aIeflmGIqZs0&refer=japan) last week -- its greatest decline in 18 years -- after the company announced (http://www.businessweek.com/globalbiz/content/nov2008/gb2008116_864302.htm) it will see an operating profit of just $6.9 billion, a 73.6 percent decline over last year. That's far worse than expected, and it underscores not only the dismal state of the domestic auto market but some strategic mistakes Toyota made on its way to becoming the biggest automaker in the world.

"Toyota has become used to carrying excessive investment, and this has left it vulnerable in a downsizing," Takaki Nakasishi, a J.P. Morgan Securities analyst, told Reuters (http://uk.reuters.com/article/motoringNews/idUKLNE4A605Z20081107). "It's important to recognize that the current steep decline in Toyota's earnings is not only a cyclical problem -- the downturn has been exacerbated by its own structural problems."

If Toyota's in trouble, it means a global economic meltdown that has sent auto sales tumbling 32 percent in October (http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,1856095,00.html) alone could shake the entire auto industry to its core.