ANOTHER ONE BITES THE DUST!

[KRAZYPSI]

Just got the news another one of Jason Heffner's TT Gallardo engines has blown up. Think twice before dishing out the money for one Jason's over priced TT kits. You'll only be wasting your money if you don't.

[Floorin04]

looks like another customer is not gonna be to happy:cursin:

[Rocman]

Is this word of mouth, or has it been posted somewhere. I would love to read what others are saying.

[Floorin04]

Is this word of mouth, or has it been posted somewhere. I would love to read what others are saying.


I didn't see anything over at the alley

[KRAZYPSI]

Is this word of mouth, or has it been posted somewhere. I would love to read what others are saying.

Both. However, "rumor" has it AllanLambo erased the truth and all the majority of the facts that were posted over at Lambo Power to cover Jason's ass.

[Rocman]

I was just reading UGR's Brokeback gallardo thread on LP. Not much info there it seems.

[torquemonster]

Both. However, "rumor" has it AllanLambo erased the truth and all the majority of the facts that were posted over at Lambo Power to cover Jason's ass.

...and protect resale values on used Heffner Gallardo's no doubt. :shady:

[KRAZYPSI]

I was just reading UGR's Brokeback gallardo thread on LP. Not much info there it seems.

You can thank Allanlambo for that. He's been covering up all of Jason's fuck ups in return for the free TT Galardo system Jason passed his way.

[TexRob]

Both. However, "rumor" has it AllanLambo erased the truth and all the majority of the facts that were posted over at Lambo Power to cover Jason's ass.:eatpop:

[jasonmiddletn]

It's a cover up I tell you!!http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/0425183831.02.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

[KRAZYPSI]

:eatpop:

Jason Heffner has pulled the wool over the eyes of many innocent hard working people for many years. He plays the role of the victim quite well and continues to give away free TT kits to certain mods that have agreed to lie and cover up for him. Most here would cringe in disbelief if they knew the real Jason Heffner.

[MiSdIrEcTeD_1]

Jason Heffner has pulled the wool over the eyes of many innocent hard working people for many years. He plays the role of the victim quite well and continues to give away free TT kits to certain mods that have agreed to lie and cover up for him. Most here would cringe in disbelief if they knew the real Jason Heffner.

:eatpop:

[MiSdIrEcTeD_1]

LamboPower Thread: Talking about a UGR issue though... :confused:

http://www.lambopower.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=36555

Heffner's Statement (ironic?)

Anyone that has been in this industry for any number of years has undoubtedly experienced a problem here and there. I wouldn't fault anyone for having an issue as long as they do what it takes to make it right, as I'm sure they did. As much as I hate to say it, we experienced an engine related issue with a recent build. What matters is how it is handled and that the appropraite measures are taken to ensure that your customer is ultimately satisfied and that doesn't happen often.

[MiSdIrEcTeD_1]

Turns out that the UGR car that has the motor pulled that the Heffner nutswingers are jumping all over is none other than Jerry's car which Heffner built to start with. UGR wants to cover all areas of what work was done prior.


Allan, Allan,

I find this thread so ironic it's not even funny. After you read this, you'll know why. What's sad is that you were saying how UR is not a good match for this site because of their so-called "sleaziness" and "look what they've done here", "we won't have this here", "we stamp these kind of people out", bla, bla, bla. Then AFTER you, and others, told them to take a hike, thinking you were "cleaning it up"...nothing has changed here.....NOTHING! That should tell the members here that the root of the problem is a little closer to home.

Before this gets way out of hand and starts to spread on other forums and in the minds of people, let's get the facts out.

The only thing that you could have possibly heard from anyone about a "problem" at UR w/ a Gallardo is the fact that... YES, Underground has removed an engine from a TT Gallardo and YES, it is getting rebuilt. What your "source" failed to pass along is that it's Ripper's engine... which Underground did not build. Kevin and myself, and a few others, have known about this for a couple weeks. We knew about this during the height of the "bashing" comments made about me and UR, we knew about it while everyone was on the "let's ban all of them (UR and supporters)" comments. We knew about it while others were saying all they (UR) want to do is smear Heffner's name. Don't you think if those accusations were true, that Kevin or myself would have used this information to take a great shot at a competitor? While I'm taking a beating on here for being a "liar", I never brought this up. Jason Heffner and myself talked, we both wanted to see peace on the site, and that was that.

Now before all of you start w/ your normal mud-slinging, let me say the facts about this engine rebuild, as I know them, so as not to be accused of making something out of nothing. Underground has been in the process of re-doing Jerry's car. We all know that. Obviously, before they start putting their components on the car, they wanted to check the engine out to make sure everything was up to par, especially since they don't want to get into a "that's not my fault" kind of thing if warranty work needs done. If they confirm the engine work is good, they can more easily stand behind it. They did a leak down test on the engine. They weren't quite happy w/ the results as some of the cylinders had a 30% leak down on them. They decided to pull the engine and send it to their machine shop. There was no catastrophic failure, but the engine shop did find rust on top of most of the cylinders from a slight water leakage. They also found that most of the steel liners had sunk somewhat. In addition to these things, they found taper in the cylinders (the way it was honed), meaning they were bigger at the bottom than the top. By the time is was machined to make them true, the pistons that came out would no longer work, so larger pistons had to go in. They are being replaced with the Underground Racing Version of a stronger designed CP piston and stronger .180+ wall wrist pin. I know all this to be true as I commute to Underground fairly regularly for various reasons and I go to the machine shop from time to time.

Again, this information could have been shared well over a week ago.....but why? This should help answer a lot of questions about the integrity of UR and myself. The only reason, as this case is a prime example, that anything negative is said about a competitor is that someone on here has made some accusation that can't be backed up. I have learned to be more prudent w/ my post and threads, but this could not be overlooked. Sorry Jason, but you can thank Allan now for this becoming public. THE ONLY REASON I AM HAVING TO INFORM PEOPLE OF THIS IS BECAUSE OF ALLAN'S STUPID THREAD!!

So now when you all see that "explosion" in Allan's post that he wants people to stare at, you'll realize that it's this thread exploding in his face!

[MiSdIrEcTeD_1]

Kevin said this:

There is NO issue of and kind with ANY Gallardo that we have built. This is a 100% LIE that "Allans Lambo" is spreading.

:eatpop:
ALLAN
Hey Kevin... On a side note.. any issues with the Ford GT you built?KEVIN
NO issues, keep spreading the BS that you can't back up. Now for the Gallardo.... back up your statement.

[KRAZYPSI]

LamboPower Thread: Talking about a UGR issue though... :confused:

http://www.lambopower.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=36555

Heffner's Statement (ironic?)

Ohhh it's "ironic" alriiight. That right there is a perfect example of what Jason Heffner will do after spending the day on the phone with Allanlambo conspiring against UR. And of course Allanlambo is going to post the lies and discredit UR everytime Jason tells him to because that was the deal he made with Heffner in exchange for the free TT Gallardo kit Jason gave him.

Like I already said...."Most people would cringe if they really knew the real Jason Heffner."

[MiSdIrEcTeD_1]

I got my two cents in. How long do you think before I am banned?

http://www.lambopower.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=36555&st=80&p=529563&#entry529563

Me:
This has to be the single most one sided, tuner biased board of any car community, and its painfully obvious.

Allan,

Im not a bit surprised that after the prior fiasco with a certain TT build, and all of the subsequent post deletions and unfair stance that you and this site took in attempt to cover it up, that you would be all over this self created rumor when you think the cards can swing the other way.

I guess maybe creating slander towards the "rival" tuner is your way of paying for the free build on your Gallardo.

[MiSdIrEcTeD_1]

The only broken Gallardo right now is a Heffner built Spyder, but LP.com locked that thread... :rofl:

http://www.lambopower.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=36590

[torquemonster]

I got my two cents in. How long do you think before I am banned?

http://www.lambopower.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=36555&st=80&p=529563&#entry529563

Me:

:rofl::rofl: :cheers: good on you mate

At the end of the day engines do sometimes blow up when pushed beyond design limits or abused, even stock engines... HOWEVER, when a tuner is charging gold plated gonads for a power upgrade the customer has the right to expect that the quality/expertise of the combination, machining, assembly and tune all add up to ensure the car enjoys the maximum life that could be expected for the power and application it was intended for.. NOT rely on factory OEM over-engineering to cmpensate

I fail to see how someone who was actually arguing over whether rockers were around the wrong way less than 4 years ago; who'd dyno a detonating engine until he was done rather than back off instantly; who I had to explain to him how to build a "tight quench" engine because he'd never heard of one (and I'm a CPA not an engine builder); whose fuel pump electrical artwork is a fire-risk; who thought my engineer was an idiot (but who makes 1000hp on a single carb without power adders); and who from my understanding only has control over the fuel not the timing of the Lambo engine... can build a Lambo engine worthy of any TT system... even his own.

But that's just me :cheers:

When I started calling for quality years ago most thought I was nothing but a dork... and I wore it because it was not my money getting wasted on half assed shit people learned to call godlike masterpieces :rofl:

for fucks sake people if you can't blow air through 500 cubes and make well into 4 digits you really should take up sewing

People like UGR show the rest of the plonkers how it is done, and if they missed etiquette school in their quest for being the best at their game , then the only ones likely to be on the receiving end would be those throwing stones and calling names... something the sissy school of tuning achieves excellence in, where the tuner is deaf to what is important, but all ears when it comes to gossip and BS and their reputation but give poor quality for the money.

WAR some who think they are best will be humbled into oblivion when someone who really knows their shit steps into the playing field... oh wait...

:rofl:

[MiSdIrEcTeD_1]

QUOTE (MiSdIrEcTeD_1 @ Nov 23 2008, 01:51 AM) http://www.viperforums.net/forums/style_images/subblack1170794431/post_snapback.gif (http://www.viperforums.net/forums/index.php?act=findpost&pid=529584)
Why is this rumor mill thread against UGR still going while a thread with the truth about another tuner's car got locked?

Further proof of a LP biased operation and hidden agenda? http://www.viperforums.net/forums/style_emoticons/default/eusa_think.gif

http://www.lambopower.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=36590


QUOTE (capt_chaos @ Nov 22 2008, 08:00 PM) http://www.viperforums.net/forums/style_images/subblack1170794431/post_snapback.gif (http://www.viperforums.net/forums/index.php?act=findpost&pid=529586)
Are you unable to read Mr Vroom's edit?
My reply:
Yeah, apparently it was locked for a "cheap shot"

And you think Allan's smug approach to the subject in this thread was any less of a cheap shot???

Its amazing that the heirarchy of this site cant practice what they preach... http://www.viperforums.net/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif

[KRAZYPSI]

At the end of the day engines do sometimes blow up when pushed beyond design limits or abused, even stock engines... HOWEVER, when a tuner is charging gold plated gonads for a power upgrade the customer has the right to expect that the quality/expertise of the combination

Well said! The problem is, Jason dosen't do any of that and still charges an arm and leg for his junk. The majority of Heffner's customers have no idea Jason turns the boost way down (after charging the customer 20gs extra for his warranty) before delivering their car to them. Sure he might show them a nice dyno graph with a huge number attached to it but when the dust settles those same cars are making no where near the power Heffner's glorified dyno graph previously showed. And that my friends is one of the main reasons why Ripper told Jason Heffner to go fly a fucking kite and kicked his ass to the curb.

[MrsMonster]

Deafners Poorformance

Raise your hand if you're glad you laid bets in THAT game.

POKER anyone??? :cheers: I'll bring the beer.

[AZZKIKR]

Deafners Poorformance

Raise your hand if you're glad you laid bets in THAT game.

POKER anyone??? :cheers: I'll bring the beer.






Fucking money! I got the beer! :cheers:

[KRAZYPSI]

HACKFFERS Poorformance





Fixed!

[Ripper]

Well said! The problem is, Jason dosen't do any of that and still charges an arm and leg for his junk. The majority of Heffner's customers have no idea Jason turns the boost way down (after charging the customer 20gs extra for his warranty) before delivering their car to them. Sure he might show them a nice dyno graph with a huge number attached to it but when the dust settles those same cars are making no where near the power Heffner's glorified dyno graph previously showed. And that my friends is one of the main reasons why Ripper told Jason Heffner to go fly a fucking kite and kicked his ass to the curb.




Exactly !!!!!!!!!! It's too bad I drank my fair share of the Kool Aid
before finally coming to a conclusion that I should have done
this a long time ago.


As pointed out in Randy's post it is funny how they jumped all over
the engine that Underground Racing pulled that was none other than my Heffner built engine.... :clap: There are some bright one's over in that camp :haha:


Kyle's post on my engine is first hand information and YES I could
not have made a better decision on having Underground pull my Heffner
built motor and send it out.

Had I left my car turned up and attempted to make
the power as promised from Heffner my car would have done
the exact same .... KABOOM !!!!!!!!!!!!

The dyno told the tale of that fiasco...


Look at the AF and this is on 17psi that Jason "claimed" makes 1K at the wheels... :suicide:




http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n111/jken04/Ripper-HeffnerTTG.jpg

[FASTASP]

[quote=Ripper02;4624Had I left my car turned up and attempted to make
the power as promised from Heffner my car would have done
the exact same .... KABOOM !!!!!!!!!!!!
[/quote]


That pull was about 8 seconds away from being really ugly.:scared:

[boiler]

I can't believe grown men have time to sit around like they do on LP and gossip like little school girls. IF Jason was a real business owner wouldn't his time be better spent focusing on HIS business and not on his competition??????

If I pulled stunts like that I would have been run off a long time ago.

[MiSdIrEcTeD_1]

I can't believe grown men have time to sit around like they do on LP and gossip like little school girls. IF Jason was a real business owner wouldn't his time be better spent focusing on HIS business and not on his competition??????

If I pulled stunts like that I would have been run off a long time ago.

Their callouts just so happened to be bullshit, and its someones job to defend the working man and his livelihood, regardless of what tuner you "roll" with...

[torquemonster]

That pull was about 8 seconds away from being really ugly.:scared:

you stole my post!



give it back :cursin:



:lol:

[jasonmiddletn]

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q47/greeneyedbastard1979/WhoGivesAFuck.jpg

[KRAZYPSI]

Exactly !!!!!!!!!! It's too bad I drank my fair share of the Kool Aid
before finally coming to a conclusion that I should have done
this a long time ago.


As pointed out in Randy's post it is funny how they jumped all over
the engine that Underground Racing pulled that was none other than my Heffner built engine.... :clap: There are some bright one's over in that camp :haha:


Kyle's post on my engine is first hand information and YES I could
not have made a better decision on having Underground pull my Heffner
built motor and send it out.

Had I left my car turned up and attempted to make
the power as promised from Heffner my car would have done
the exact same .... KABOOM !!!!!!!!!!!!

The dyno told the tale of that fiasco...


Look at the AF and this is on 17psi that Jason "claimed" makes 1K at the wheels... :suicide:




http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n111/jken04/Ripper-HeffnerTTG.jpg


Well said Ripper! Jason Heffner is a complete fucking douche.

[a66cobra1]

Deleted.

[jasonmiddletn]

Where do I get some Nazi gold?

From your buddy MD doc!! :D