604rwhp/575rwtq ACR Dyno

MiSdIrEcTeD_1 · May 1st, 2009, 11:33 AM

To my knowledge, this is the same car from

THIS thread that put down 546rwhp/511rwtq in bone stock form.

Fast forward to a K&N, ECU, headers and exhaust and the results are 604rwhp and 575rwtq on the same dyno. A gain of 60 and 60, respectively, is certainly not too shabby, considering the ease.

StreetFire

N2 TRBL · May 1st, 2009, 11:45 AM

damn..60/60 to the wheels even.

torquemonster · May 1st, 2009, 05:15 PM

excellent! that's pretty good for just a basic bolt ons and a retune

June 19th, 2009, 04:18 PM

Great number for sure.

sonofadragracer · June 19th, 2009, 04:25 PM

Running the same set up w/a 3.55 gear. More to follow.

Sadistic · June 19th, 2009, 05:03 PM

Why assume that we know the mods on this car? Please list them if you don't mind. I've got a slew of Z06 owners looking to gun me down and I'll have to stay one step ahead of the nerds.

The Former PFR · June 19th, 2009, 10:54 PM

Which headers?

sonofadragracer · June 19th, 2009, 11:52 PM

I think it has the same as me minus the 3.55 Gear.

Complete Belanger system.
Mopar ECU
Smooth Tubes
K/N

I still say once they get the VVT system fig. out and can put some damn compression in the thing...look out! 10.2.1 compression is loafing for an N/A motor in my opinion.

Viper4Christ · June 20th, 2009, 02:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonofadragracer

I think it has the same as me minus the 3.55 Gear.

Complete Belanger system.
Mopar ECU
Smooth Tubes
K/N

I still say once they get the VVT system fig. out and can put some damn compression in the thing...look out! 10.2.1 compression is loafing for an N/A motor in my opinion.

I'm sure they could get away with 12:1 on the VVT and still be pump gas friendly. I like the new Gen4's but it's obvious they're not as mod friend as Gen 2 or 3 cars.

sonofadragracer · June 20th, 2009, 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Viper4Christ

I'm sure they could get away with 12:1 on the VVT and still be pump gas friendly. I like the new Gen4's but it's obvious they're not as mod friend as Gen 2 or 3 cars.

Well, there's def. P/V clearance in there. 12.1 would be nice.

Elgreco · June 20th, 2009, 12:19 PM

The beauty of vvt. Tons of compression and still able to run pump gas and idle like stock.

The Former PFR · June 20th, 2009, 07:36 PM

These things are gonna make insane all motor cars when someone gets serious about doing one.

GTS_Steveo · June 20th, 2009, 08:23 PM

DAMN!!!!

I should have just got a 4th GEN instead of building my old GEN2

Hamrhead · June 21st, 2009, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonofadragracer

I think it has the same as me minus the 3.55 Gear.

Complete Belanger system.
Mopar ECU
Smooth Tubes
K/N

I still say once they get the VVT system fig. out and can put some damn compression in the thing...look out! 10.2.1 compression is loafing for an N/A motor in my opinion.

Where did ya pick up the Smooth Tubes?

Thanks

sonofadragracer · June 21st, 2009, 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hamrhead

Where did ya pick up the Smooth Tubes?

Thanks

Old Drag Racing Trick!!!

http://www.snakeoylproducts.com/home.php

Disturbed ACR · June 23rd, 2009, 12:01 AM

The Gen IV was made with LOTS left in it. I think the intent was to leave a bunch of power on the table so they could just tune the ECU and exhaust and then rate the car for 650hp.

Some days...I want a Gen IV ACR.

MarshallTK · June 23rd, 2009, 01:50 AM

60 hp and torque gain only? Shouldn't you get more from all those mods?? A Z06 can crank out more....:/

bushido · June 23rd, 2009, 02:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarshallTK

A Z06 can crank out more....:/

Where are you getting your information? Theres no way a Z06 will crank out more, not even with ported heads and a cam. That said, my buddy has a 07 Z06 and with ported heads, ported throttle body, QM 600cam, headers etc. His car put down 571rwhp and 534 torque on the dynojet..

sonofadragracer · June 23rd, 2009, 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarshallTK

60 hp and torque gain only? Shouldn't you get more from all those mods?? A Z06 can crank out more....:/

Know ZO6's very well. Played the LS game for awhile. For the given Mods, Viper is greater. You have good ol' CI. working for ya.

Both of my Z's. 08 C6Z and 03 C5Z w/forged LS2 Stroker.

MarshallTK · June 25th, 2009, 01:13 PM

Nice, But yea, Z06 works magic with its headers, last i heard was someone got around 60 hp just from headers.

But Bushido what you just said means it got a bigger hp gain than a Viper. A stock Z06 has 505 hp and 470 trq. So it got a 66 hp gain and 64 trq. But thats at the wheels. Which is still more than the viper.

It might not have AS much hp as a viper but, it is lighter. So for the amount of hp it just made is equivalent to the 604 hp the viper makes.

Remember the 08 Viper beats the Z06 by small margins. When both cars tested by numerous car magazines. Viper always beat it to 60 by .2-.3 seconds 1/4 mile by .1-.3 seconds. On the lap course by 1.2 seconds.

Plus the Z06 does handle much better than a viper, it doesn't catch you unexpectedly. Doesn't require nerves of steel and yanking the steering wheel left and right just to get the rear end str8. The Z06 is more friendly and easier to be pushed to its limits.

So in total it is a very close race between the 2 and does boil down to the driver. So if a header/exhaust/ECU/ and or intake will kill an 08 viper.

Now compared to the ZR1, the viper is faster to 150 mph, which is funny. I don't know about 180, 190 or even 200 mph. I think the ZR1 does beat it there.

But if you really look at it without bias. The Z06 is really close to the Viper and ZR1. As far as tuning FOR NOW. The Z06 is your best bet, since everything for an 08 viper is so damn expensive and not many people have tested stuff on them yet, and the ZR1 is close to its limits, pushing it any farther will cause reliability problems. Like blowing a head gasket.

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sonofadragracer Senior Member sonofadragracer's Garage: DODGE VIPER Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 333 Casino Cash: $14260	I think it has the same as me minus the 3.55 Gear. Complete Belanger system. Mopar ECU Smooth Tubes K/N I still say once they get the VVT system fig. out and can put some damn compression in the thing...look out! 10.2.1 compression is loafing for an N/A motor in my opinion.

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MarshallTK Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 130 Casino Cash: $9129 My Mood:	Nice, But yea, Z06 works magic with its headers, last i heard was someone got around 60 hp just from headers. But Bushido what you just said means it got a bigger hp gain than a Viper. A stock Z06 has 505 hp and 470 trq. So it got a 66 hp gain and 64 trq. But thats at the wheels. Which is still more than the viper. It might not have AS much hp as a viper but, it is lighter. So for the amount of hp it just made is equivalent to the 604 hp the viper makes. Remember the 08 Viper beats the Z06 by small margins. When both cars tested by numerous car magazines. Viper always beat it to 60 by .2-.3 seconds 1/4 mile by .1-.3 seconds. On the lap course by 1.2 seconds. Plus the Z06 does handle much better than a viper, it doesn't catch you unexpectedly. Doesn't require nerves of steel and yanking the steering wheel left and right just to get the rear end str8. The Z06 is more friendly and easier to be pushed to its limits. So in total it is a very close race between the 2 and does boil down to the driver. So if a header/exhaust/ECU/ and or intake will kill an 08 viper. Now compared to the ZR1, the viper is faster to 150 mph, which is funny. I don't know about 180, 190 or even 200 mph. I think the ZR1 does beat it there. But if you really look at it without bias. The Z06 is really close to the Viper and ZR1. As far as tuning FOR NOW. The Z06 is your best bet, since everything for an 08 viper is so damn expensive and not many people have tested stuff on them yet, and the ZR1 is close to its limits, pushing it any farther will cause reliability problems. Like blowing a head gasket.