Honda Build A 500hp V8

[torquemonster]

Dubbed the Honda HSV-010 GT, it is obviously race only, but being Honda will be very fast. The engine is only 3400cc so must rpm very high. Car weighs 2420lb race ready.

[v10nut]

That is a really beautiful car. I hope that turns into the next NSX! I would buy it.

[Disturbed ACR]

That...is a sweet looking race car. Only 3.6L and 500hp.

The Viper could use a good DOHC and a better r/s ratio.

[torquemonster]

Originally Posted by Disturbed ACR

That...is a sweet looking race car. Only 3.6L and 500hp.

The Viper could use a good DOHC and a better r/s ratio.

no to the first, yes to the 2nd

the 1st only helps at high rpm and makes less power for the area it needs to take up compared to an OHV engine the same physical outer dimensions...

a quad cam 40V V10 would have to reduce to around 5000cc to fit under the current Viper hood and it'd STILL be wider than the stock 8300cc motor if it retained a 90 degree V. Also higher CG

[Disturbed ACR]

Originally Posted by torquemonster

no to the first, yes to the 2nd

the 1st only helps at high rpm and makes less power for the area it needs to take up compared to an OHV engine the same physical outer dimensions...

a quad cam 40V V10 would have to reduce to around 5000cc to fit under the current Viper hood and it'd STILL be wider than the stock 8300cc motor if it retained a 90 degree V. Also higher CG

Are you saying that a 9000rpm OHV motor would have a better power under the curve than a 9000rpm DOHC? We will also assume both motors are 500ci.

[torquemonster]

Originally Posted by Disturbed ACR

Are you saying that a 9000rpm OHV motor would have a better power under the curve than a 9000rpm DOHC? We will also assume both motors are 500ci.

no, a 9000rpm OHV motor would be race only. In all out racing a 2V head will get very close to a 4V, but would have a shorter life.

4V heads provide a wider envelope for breathing, but DOHC does nothing for power other than allow more efficiency/reliability at high rpms... it's unnecessary bulk in a big street engine with the advancements in modern 2V heads.

Nobody is going to mass produce a 9000rpm 500 cubic inch street car. But to answer your question - a quad cam 40V 500ci engine would make a wider power band with better top end in a street spec and require milder cam specs.

BUT remember that a 500ci quad cam 40V motor is a going to be ENORMOUSLY bigger than a 500ci stock V10 physically - wider, longer, taller, HEAVIER and higher center of gravity.... in short it is ridiculous to think about.

Due to size limitations you'd be looking comparing a 305-365 inch quad cam 40V engine vs a 500 inch 20V one like now.... and the cubes will WIN

[jasonmiddletn]

I hope Honda goes out of business just like Toyota!

[torquemonster]

Originally Posted by jasonmiddletn

I hope Honda goes out of business just like Toyota!

I don't. If it wasn't for the Japs, American cars would still be running tolerances 10 times greater than their Jap counterparts. Now they're probably half as close

Jap technology lifted everybodies game and god forbid the lazy American industry is allowed to get complacent again. Build quality in Japan far exceeds what is done in the USA. Sadly this same thing can be seen on American assembled Euro and Jap cars. You will not find as many faults on a Jap or German assembled car. The workers in the USA are either lazy, or simply do not care, and the industry obviously doesn't either or it'd built cars of comparable quality build and tolerances.

[Elgreco]

It's got a fart can from the factory.

[tucker]

Originally Posted by torquemonster

I don't. If it wasn't for the Japs, American cars would still be running tolerances 10 times greater than their Jap counterparts. Now they're probably half as close

Jap technology lifted everybodies game and god forbid the lazy American industry is allowed to get complacent again. Build quality in Japan far exceeds what is done in the USA. Sadly this same thing can be seen on American assembled Euro and Jap cars. You will not find as many faults on a Jap or German assembled car. The workers in the USA are either lazy, or simply do not care, and the industry obviously doesn't either or it'd built cars of comparable quality build and tolerances.

Laziness, poor build quality, yadda yadda yadda. The best cars were built with faults and incomparably poor tolerances. At the peak of our ineptness, the US car industry was booming. I am all for taking a few steps back to see some poor quality high style cars with some balls. If you want something that heats and cools your ass and can't stop, buy a Jap car. If you want to ride in your recliner, buy a Benz, BMW, or a Lexus. And like in the old days, if you want in your face styling with some grunt, buy American.

[torquemonster]

Originally Posted by tucker

And like in the old days, if you want in your face styling with some grunt, buy American.

like this?



or this?



or did you mean more bling?



looks like Bich Evans forgot the "t" in the spelling

[tucker]

Originally Posted by torquemonster

like this?

Like the one on the left.

[torquemonster]

Originally Posted by tucker

Like the one on the left.

yeah, me too. Not with those wheels though, they're so 1970/71

[Disturbed ACR]

Originally Posted by torquemonster

I don't. If it wasn't for the Japs, American cars would still be running tolerances 10 times greater than their Jap counterparts. Now they're probably half as close

Jap technology lifted everybodies game and god forbid the lazy American industry is allowed to get complacent again. Build quality in Japan far exceeds what is done in the USA. Sadly this same thing can be seen on American assembled Euro and Jap cars. You will not find as many faults on a Jap or German assembled car. The workers in the USA are either lazy, or simply do not care, and the industry obviously doesn't either or it'd built cars of comparable quality build and tolerances.

American workers for the most part, are lazy. Let the companies fall and newer, stronger and better will take over.

i agree american union autoworkers are lazy and over paid and ride in a skyline and tell me that jap cars are junk and slow